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	<title>Comments on: Background checks: Of job applications and credit checks</title>
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		<title>By: kevin p. baxter</title>
		<link>http://blog.firstreference.com/2010/03/02/background-checks-of-job-applications-and-credit-checks/comment-page-1/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin p. baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a heads up.... I have had an individual with the same name as me but a birthday in a different month and day two years older use my information from a Sayreville police officer in a traffic stop.  The individual said he was from my address and now he is serving time for first degree car-jacking.  I have had to go to many different municipal authorities in reference to other crimianl complaints that were sent to my home and had to appear etc etc.  He is a different color than me also.  His wife having a different last name worked at car rental facility which may also how he knew of my personal information.  Its been a mess....  I am happy that the fingerprint and other information tracks my issues to be sure I am not hampered from getting my job/jobs which are being applied for.  Its sad that my name is in the HALL OF RECORDS with my bithday on the information stored as being a different color with my own birth year....MOTORVEHICLE and I had a sit down and there was no confusion on that end, but the issue that the other person has multiple addresses and multiple social security numbers is amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a heads up&#8230;. I have had an individual with the same name as me but a birthday in a different month and day two years older use my information from a Sayreville police officer in a traffic stop.  The individual said he was from my address and now he is serving time for first degree car-jacking.  I have had to go to many different municipal authorities in reference to other crimianl complaints that were sent to my home and had to appear etc etc.  He is a different color than me also.  His wife having a different last name worked at car rental facility which may also how he knew of my personal information.  Its been a mess&#8230;.  I am happy that the fingerprint and other information tracks my issues to be sure I am not hampered from getting my job/jobs which are being applied for.  Its sad that my name is in the HALL OF RECORDS with my bithday on the information stored as being a different color with my own birth year&#8230;.MOTORVEHICLE and I had a sit down and there was no confusion on that end, but the issue that the other person has multiple addresses and multiple social security numbers is amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaz</title>
		<link>http://blog.firstreference.com/2010/03/02/background-checks-of-job-applications-and-credit-checks/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaz offered this further comment via e-mail (and to respect his privacy, I asked if I could repost it here, which he accepted).

Yes your opinion matters, I love intelligent opinions.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, a part of me agrees with you as the credit check in some ways insinuates that those on a lower income scale are more likely to steal and we have all seen high paid white collar criminals refute that mentality.  Also, many people have bad credit simply due to hard times, spousal mismanagement etc and they would never steal what isn&#039;t theirs.  However, my 2 biggest beefs with this issue is that the government will do this very same check with a vengeance and not have to justify it but others will get dragged through Human Rights, Labour Boards etc..  The other is that there is little to no protection for the employer, there is too much bias, abuse of power and bleeding heart mentality at the level of the labour ministries which hinder or prevent employers from protecting themselves once they find they have hired a bad employee.  So, until the government evens the playing field on both counts employers become desperate to protect themselves, and they should not be ignored because without employers there would be no employees.

Regards,
 
Shaz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaz offered this further comment via e-mail (and to respect his privacy, I asked if I could repost it here, which he accepted).</p>
<p>Yes your opinion matters, I love intelligent opinions.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, a part of me agrees with you as the credit check in some ways insinuates that those on a lower income scale are more likely to steal and we have all seen high paid white collar criminals refute that mentality.  Also, many people have bad credit simply due to hard times, spousal mismanagement etc and they would never steal what isn&#8217;t theirs.  However, my 2 biggest beefs with this issue is that the government will do this very same check with a vengeance and not have to justify it but others will get dragged through Human Rights, Labour Boards etc..  The other is that there is little to no protection for the employer, there is too much bias, abuse of power and bleeding heart mentality at the level of the labour ministries which hinder or prevent employers from protecting themselves once they find they have hired a bad employee.  So, until the government evens the playing field on both counts employers become desperate to protect themselves, and they should not be ignored because without employers there would be no employees.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Shaz</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Gorley</title>
		<link>http://blog.firstreference.com/2010/03/02/background-checks-of-job-applications-and-credit-checks/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Gorley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Shaz. You&#039;re right; I was too general, and I&#039;ve edited the text appropriately, I hope.

My opinion, if it matters, is that basing a hiring or promotion decision on a person&#039;s credit history is discriminatory, but there are always exceptions.
Maybe a special limited credit report should be available for prospective employers. I don&#039;t know the answer.

Thanks again for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Shaz. You&#8217;re right; I was too general, and I&#8217;ve edited the text appropriately, I hope.</p>
<p>My opinion, if it matters, is that basing a hiring or promotion decision on a person&#8217;s credit history is discriminatory, but there are always exceptions.<br />
Maybe a special limited credit report should be available for prospective employers. I don&#8217;t know the answer.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaz</title>
		<link>http://blog.firstreference.com/2010/03/02/background-checks-of-job-applications-and-credit-checks/comment-page-1/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article states; &#039;the company wanted to avoid hiring Sales Associates it thought would be more likely to steal. While this case isn’t a human rights decision, I think Mark’s should have seen a problem right there. Maybe they should have asked why no other companies are doing this sort of loss-prevention&#039;

The very last line is a little too general to say &#039;NO OTHER&#039; because our very own government does it on a regular basis for the very same reason.  Even if you are not an OLG direct employee but hold a certain key licence to oversee the bar on a premises that houses OLG slots your are sujected to a MANDATORY evaluation by OPP officers who not only check if ANY police calls were ever made by/against you but they know and reveal, to the penny, what is in your bank accounts etc.  And, this process is repeated every 5 years without fail.  So I say this, as long as our government can assess a bar tender&#039;s credit history and bank savings to determine their level of &#039;liklihood to steal&#039; then so should this be allowed for every employer who must trust people to work with their money.  Let&#039;s face it, if they can&#039;t be cautious prior to hiring they are done for if anything goes wrong because often these theiving culprits are protected under the skirt of the Ontario Ministry of Labour who spend a great deal of energy protecting the employee even if they are at fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article states; &#8216;the company wanted to avoid hiring Sales Associates it thought would be more likely to steal. While this case isn’t a human rights decision, I think Mark’s should have seen a problem right there. Maybe they should have asked why no other companies are doing this sort of loss-prevention&#8217;</p>
<p>The very last line is a little too general to say &#8216;NO OTHER&#8217; because our very own government does it on a regular basis for the very same reason.  Even if you are not an OLG direct employee but hold a certain key licence to oversee the bar on a premises that houses OLG slots your are sujected to a MANDATORY evaluation by OPP officers who not only check if ANY police calls were ever made by/against you but they know and reveal, to the penny, what is in your bank accounts etc.  And, this process is repeated every 5 years without fail.  So I say this, as long as our government can assess a bar tender&#8217;s credit history and bank savings to determine their level of &#8216;liklihood to steal&#8217; then so should this be allowed for every employer who must trust people to work with their money.  Let&#8217;s face it, if they can&#8217;t be cautious prior to hiring they are done for if anything goes wrong because often these theiving culprits are protected under the skirt of the Ontario Ministry of Labour who spend a great deal of energy protecting the employee even if they are at fault.</p>
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